Taylor Swift's Physical Touch on Podcast Reveals Depth of Romance With Travis Kelce, Expert Says

Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce shared a candid look into their relationship during Swift's debut on the New Heights podcast this week. The singer was beside her boyfriend for an hour and 44 minutes on the show, letting fans see more of her life, not just her songs.
Body language expert Louella Alderson observed these interactions closely.
"The strong connection between Travis and Taylor is undeniable from their first-ever interview together. They appeared completely at ease with each other and there's a real sense of familiarity between them."
"They're a couple that know how to have fun together, but it's just as clear that they listen to each other and value what the other has to say," Alderson told The Mirror US.
Taylor: "I owe a lot to this podcast. It got me a boyfriend, ever since Travis decided to use it as his personal dating app" 😭😭😭😭 pic.twitter.com/8T9QBaWzMG
— Núria ✨ (@basicvillanelle) August 13, 2025
Physical Touch and Connection
Alderson mentioned how physical touch plays a significant role in the couple's dynamic.
"Throughout the conversation, Taylor glanced at Travis a lot. This felt like a way of checking in with him. It's a small but telling sign of how much she values his opinion. She was also slightly angled towards Travis throughout their conversation, like she was naturally drawn to him," she said.
According to Alderson, the couple's relaxed gestures and mutual attention suggested a comfort with each other.
She added, "Physical touch is likely an important love language for both of them. They would put their hands on each other's legs and were intertwined in a natural and relaxed position throughout. It spoke volumes about their comfort with each other."
The expert also pointed to moments when Travis listened intently.
travis swooning whenever taylor uses a big word is KILLING me 😭😭😭 he is so down bad lmaooo pic.twitter.com/zgf4275Vjc
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The two often leaned toward each other and rested their hands on one another in ways Alderson described as "intertwined in a natural and relaxed position," reflecting a genuine ease. When Swift discussed regaining her music masters, Kelce's gaze was "engaged and encouraging," which said a lot about how much he respects and cares about what matters to her," Alderson said.
Flirty and Playful Energy
🚨| Taylor shares her reaction upon learning that Travis left the Eras Tour disappointed because he couldn’t meet her & give her the friendship bracelet he made for her:
— Taylor Swift Updates (@TSUpdating) August 14, 2025
I was like—This dude didn’t get a meet & greet and he’s making it everyone’s problem.pic.twitter.com/HTsFiO2mk9
The pair's playful energy was another highlight.
"Their conversations and their connection didn't feel forced at all; it was the kind of banter that comes from knowing each other inside out," Alderson noted.
She also observed how Swift fit into the podcast dynamic with host Jason Kelce. "Taylor, Travis and Jason's energy bounced off each other," she said. "It felt less like a promotional podcast and more like three family members having fun together. As he's so close with Jason, it'll be important for him to be with someone who slots in to his family effortlessly."
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